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| 03 Oct 2011 09:06 PM |
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Has anyone tried the Advanced login by http://www.interactivewebs.com/adva...dule.aspxv It seems like this will let you login with FB and if you have a previous DNN account, match the two together. He says the dll is free and can be used with the basic DNN login.
However, I am using the Active Social log in, and have no idea how to make it work with AS. I'm not that interested in the other features like drop downs, etc. However, I could buy a license if it can be integrated to work with Active Social sign up page. Letting my users sign up/sign in with FB would be great.
Has anyone tried this? Or is there another way?
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Jeff Blanks
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| 23 Oct 2011 12:17 PM |
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I just downloaded the module today and currently testing it out. You can register on their site and download the module for testing. It has a 30 day trial period. My goal is to keep it strictly as my login module, but allow for logging in with FB/Twitter. Right now, the issue I see is how to integrate with the AS progressive registration process in order to fire off an accurate link for verified registration. The Advanced login module also handles this, but will overtake the registration process, which I'm trying to steer clear of. I'll let you know how it works out. |
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Cheers! Jeff
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Jeff Blanks
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| 23 Oct 2011 12:39 PM |
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Edit: I was reading the manual and the trial period is 14 days but can be extended upon request. |
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Cheers! Jeff
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Steven
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| 24 Oct 2011 11:01 AM |
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I'm currently using DataSprings Dynamic Login. I am not using Active Social Authentication. The new release of this module gives you SSO using Twitter or Linkedin, as well as facebook. |
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| 03 Nov 2011 01:38 PM |
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Jeff, any update on this? I really want FB/Twitter login but keep the AS progressive registration process.
I don't want to lose anything from AS, like asuid, etc. |
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Jeff Blanks
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| 03 Nov 2011 06:25 PM |
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I've made some progress but still testing it out. So far, I've been able to keep the AS progressive registration and simply use the Advanced login for logging into the site. It's a bit tricky to setup at first because if a person logs in with FB or Twitter, they get an account created automatically (bypassing AS registration). This is no big deal because they get registered as a "Registered User" in DNN. But the welcome message from AS signup is bypassed with the "Hey you still need to verify your email" that gets sent to their site inbox and their email. As long as the [ASVERIFY] message is displayed dominantly (preferably in your skin file) a person still realizes that they need to verify their email addy for AS. For first time FB/Twitter users, you can customize the emails sent by Advanced Login and hardcode a link in the welcome message that directs a user to the AS verification page to have another AS verification code sent. Not ideal but it would work. I haven't gotten into my testing this far yet to confirm this. Except the fact that emails can be customized. I have messed around with the Advanced Login registration process for verified registration and it is definitely the same as the core DNN. Not progressive at all like AS. Meaning that if you register through Adv Log regardless of what role is applied, you don't have access to the site as a registered user. You HAVE to verify your email. I'm sold on it and am getting it simply because of the FB/Twitter login, but I've still got to tinker with it to get better results. It's a very viable solution. @Steven. I've seriously considered Dynamic Login as well but it does lack the progressive registration process that AS has, just like Advanced Login/Registration. And, because of that, due to it's cost and the cost of Advanced Login, it's a no brainer which one I would pick, simply because of the feature set that I need. Dynamic Login is the way to go if a person doesn't require progressive registration that AS provides. It is highly flexible and very powerful. I've found so far that ALL login/registration modules I've come across, excluding AS registration allow for customization on the registration process quite well and allow for subscriptions, email customization, etc. But none of them allow a person to sign up, become a registered user, AND participate in a site as a registered user without first verifying their account. With AS progressive registration and DNN set to Verified Registration, a person can signup to your site, get started and make posts, do other things on your site based on the security role "registered users" and then verify their email later to gain access to a "verified user" role to do more things on the site. It seems that all 3rd party registration modules follow the core DNN verified registration process and you are locked out of the site until you verify your account. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. But this is the basic reason why I've clinged to the AS progressive registration process. |
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Cheers! Jeff
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| 03 Nov 2011 08:12 PM |
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Thank you so much for the update, Jeff. I did contact Interactive Web re unique display name - we use ifinity urlmaster and asuid - so your profile is at domain.com/YourDisplayName. He said he would build require unique display name into future version. I see that DNN promises to have FB/Twitter login in 2012 but first they need to integrate Active Social. And with DNN 6.1 being broken (if you use scripts - which most of us do for Google Analytics or FB like buttons, etc.) I'd be willing to buy Advanced Login now, rather than waiting a year. I'm thinking, that without the AS verfication, the asuid would not be created? He (InterActive/Advanced Login) did answer questions promptly but I haven't had time to experiment with this. I need to schedule time for integration, as trying to convince people to register for your site is a pain ... almost everywhere I go they allow login with FB/Twitter/LinkedIn and I'm still stuck in the stone age. |
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Jeff Blanks
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| 03 Nov 2011 08:58 PM |
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I'm thinking, that without the AS verfication, the asuid would not be created? The "asuid" works directly off of the DNN userid. So regardless of how your users signup, they will still get an AS profile, just not setup based on your settings for AS signup. I don't think this would effect Url Master either, but I could be wrong. Been known to before. True, they would skip the AS verification process (progressive registration), but they would still have a profile. |
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Cheers! Jeff
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Steven Webster
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| 04 Nov 2011 07:15 AM |
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Jeff, Just going to ask. Is that a valid reason? Seems like the concept of verification in the first place would be to verify the user's email address BEFORE they can participate in the site. Is there a real reason we're (I'm using progressive reg as well) using this method over a harder line approach to user security?
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| 04 Nov 2011 12:50 PM |
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Steven, good point. I'm wondering/re-evaluating myself, why I'm using progressive reg. My users can't do anything unless verified. There is no 2 tier user system. When I set alll this up in beginning, knew nothing about forums, etc. Instructions said 'extra layer of security'. Sounded like I should have it. Now not sure. Except for the 'unique user name'. Must reread forum re progressive registration. |
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Jeff Blanks
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| 04 Nov 2011 05:56 PM |
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My approach is with the use of FB/Twitter/LinkedIn login/registration abilities and a quick registration process is to allow a registered user to explore and view the site and also have limited access to features available. Like a testing phase to get the person into the site and view available features and test those that are available to a registered user. The next step would be to verify their account to unlock the rest of the features. If users see buttons for FB/Twitter/LinkedIn login, they are more apt to just click them and do a quick signup then browse the site, than without them. Thus, they get automatically signed up. I still want them to be able to have limited access to the site on first login and do some exploring. I don't think this is an option with the default DNN verification. Meaning if a user logs in with FB, they will not have profile access, etc. until their account is verified. But as unauth, they can still see the site. My registered users only have one controlled forum they can post in and test out features. Not able to comment in most places on my site, but some. Can still create only one listing through all my PA module instances. But it doesn't go much further than that before they need to verify their account. One would argue that I'm opening myself up to spammers. This may be true and it may occur, but it's something I'm willing to take a chance on. Given the fact that my main site I'm working on (northeastok) is a geographical site and I've blocked Asian, Chinese, African IPs, with a still growing list, I'm hoping that my base users will be coming mostly from my targeted geographical area for the site. Monthly, Bi-monthly, etc. this will give me a list of users that never verified their account and I can purge their accounts and delete them. I could be way off track and my goals may not follow through as planned, but I can certainly hope. But I'm also always open to other options and suggestions. |
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Cheers! Jeff
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Smart-Thinker
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| 26 Nov 2011 01:02 AM |
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I use Facebook Connect on PokerDIY.com and it has increased registrations MASSIVELY.
Try it now (top right) |
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thanks Rodney Joyce PokerDIY.com - Connecting Poker Players |
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| 26 Nov 2011 01:20 AM |
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Rodney, is that just the API from Facebook?
What happens if you sign up for an account using your standard sign up and then try to use FB login? Do you have 2 accounts or does it merge/recognize/join the two? |
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Jeff Blanks
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| 28 Nov 2011 04:34 PM |
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If memory serves me correctly, I signed up for Rodneys site prior to using FB connect and then also connected with FB and it seemed the two inter-communicated. Similar to iWebs Advanced Login (which I am now a user of, only for logging in and FB/Twitter). But this is something Rodney should probably comment on himself. I believe he's using the Dynamic Login module. |
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Cheers! Jeff
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| 29 Nov 2011 04:17 AM |
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Yip - Jeff is correct - it's the Dynamic Login module - it was very expensive for what it does (I JUST use the FB login) but I like the way it works (ie. matches your FB email and logs you in). How does it compare to the iWeb one? OnyakTech has one too now... |
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thanks Rodney Joyce PokerDIY.com - Connecting Poker Players |
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